Oprah Winfrey is not mincing words when it comes to disgraced movie executive Harvey Weinstein.

In a sit-down interview on Gwyneth Paltrow’s new podcast The Goop, Winfrey, who’s making media rounds for her new film A Wrinkle in Timeopened up about working with Weinstein and their past interactions.

“What I knew about Harvey was that Harvey was a bully and that if Harvey’s on the phone, you go ‘God, you don’t want to take the call,’ because you’re going to get bullied in some way,” she told Paltrow.

Winfrey said that he would pressure her to have certain guests on The Oprah Winfrey Show, according to CNN.

The two worked together in 2013 for Lee Daniels’ The Butler, which The Weinstein Co. distributed and Winfrey starred in.

The mogul said that she had no idea about the allegations against Weinstein.

“Was I friendly with Harvey? Yes, I was friendly with Harvey. Was I in association with Harvey for the Butler movie? Yes, but of course I didn’t know any of this was going on,” Winfrey said.

Paltrow was one of over 60 women who accused Weinstein of Sexual misconduct when he ran The Weinstein Company and his former studio, Miramax.

He has denied the allegations made against him.