nor are we going to say 'vote for him' and we are not going to tell people to vote for anybody else either.
JL: But you told people to vote for him 4 years ago ?
RO: Oh, yes we did.
JL: So now he doesn’t deserve your support because of this 'moral' issue, even though there a separation between church and state?
RO: Well, there isn’t such thing as separation as church and state. He’s a politician, I’m a minister. He’s doing his job, I’m doing mine.
JL: Thank you so much for you time, sir.