Many people have a lot to say about Kanye West’s recent headlining making antics, one person who’s never been shy to speak her mind is one of the OG’s of reality television, Tiffany “New York” Pollard.

Pollard spoke to Josh McBride from The Daily Buzz on May 3 and was initially coy when the topic of West came up.

“I like to be sensitive with Kanye because I don’t think Kanye understands the attack that he’s under,” she said. “Like, I literally looked at his photo recently with a magnifying glass and he doesn’t even know that he has demons on his kneecaps.”

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She went on to say that West needs an exorcism because he’s being led by the “dark side.”

Check out the clip below.