In a Philly Morning Show interview, Kanye West said that he’s tired of being “used” by President Obama, who called the rapper a “jackass” after the great I’mma-Let-You-Finish-Gate of 2009.

“He used to come and visit me and my mama and tell me that he’s about to run for president,” West recalled. “I just think that we’re pop icons, and the president likes to use that type of thing just to be down and stuff. People was fine with me being everyone’s punching bag for about five years — ‘Man, this is the person we love to hate, so if you want to distract people from everything that’s going on…, just say you hate Kanye and there’s going be 30 other people who say they hate Kanye.'” “That was kind of my position in culture so he also used that too — ‘Oh, he’s a jackass’ — because that’s how the world felt,” the hip-hop artist said.

Ultimately, West concluded, “I don’t care if somebody’s the president or not. I care about thoughts and how you helping people and what you bring to the world.”