Sherri Shepherd appeared on The Breakfast Club and discussed what it’s like, as a single mother, raising a Black teenage son. During the interview, the former co-host of The View said her 13-year-old son, Jeffrey, doesn’t like Black girls because he perceives them to be “mean.”

Shepherd told the hosts of the morning show that her son goes to a predominately White school and has had unpleasant interactions with the few Black girls who are also students there. “I am going through this thing; he likes these girls,” she said. “Because he came in and he said, ‘Mommy, I like White girls.”

She added, “I learn a lot about men from my son. The little Black girls get mean with him. Sometimes they don’t want to speak [and] sometimes they act crazy. And he’s like, ‘Why they act so crazy?’ and I’m like, ‘I don’t know.’ So I keep trying to tell the little girls to be nicer so he can come towards you. But the other girls see him and they go, ‘Hey, Jeffrey’ and they wanna feel his hair…”

Shepherd’s son told her of an incident in which one Black girl he was speaking to “moved her neck” when she spoke to him.

She went on to ask the hosts what to do about the ideas of colorism forming in her boy. Charlamagne tha God suggested Shepherd provide strong male figures to guide her son, and Angela Yee proposed that the comedian bring Jeffrey around more teens who look like him.

Hear Shepherd talk about her son starting at the 37-minute mark in the video below.